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Markker's avatar

I read about aspiration? where the syringe is pulled back after needle insertion to see if blood there to indicate a punctured vein so the administrator should remove the needle and repeat until clear before depressing plunger with the vial contents. I think the WHO said this wasn't necessary. Any jabs I have ever received were quick stab and plunge.

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Dr Lidiya Angelova's avatar

I remember it. The thing is that the jabs weren't even given at hospitals. I have seen such at parking lot, at the beach, in a store and a park. There's no way to have hired experienced medical professionals to do it.

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Markker's avatar

I haven't read the study yet but wonder if the pigs were sacrificed after 6 hrs, did they give the IV arm a further IV dose within 6 hrs? Also, there's no mention of 3rd arm, PEG pretreated pigs? I'll have to download study to find out. How easy, or not, is testing blood and plasmas for these and how can they be removed?

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Dr Lidiya Angelova's avatar

I didn't include the 3rd since was getting too long.

Here's a breakdown addressing your questions

1. Sacrifice Timing & Dosing Schedule

• Sacrifice: The pigs were indeed euthanized at the end of the 6-hour observation window .

• Repeated 4 Doses: Yes. The protocol involved three consecutive 4 injections, each roughly 15–60 minutes apart. Each injection delivered one-third of a human dose (~150 µg mRNA in total per injection at ~6 µg/kg), and dosing occurred within that 6-hour window (pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov).

• Figure 3 in the paper shows spike mRNA peaks in PBMCs ~15 minutes after each bolus, followed by rapid declines; cytokine levels also peaked after each dose (researchgate.net).

2. PEG-Pretreated Arm — What Happened There?

• The study included anti-PEG-sensitized pigs: they were pre-immunized with PEG-liposomes (Doxebo) to raise anti-PEG IgG/IgM levels, then challenged with the vaccine via IV (biorxiv.org).

• This “third arm” showed:

• 100% anaphylaxis incidence with hemodynamic collapse within minutes

• Sharp complement (C3a) and thromboxane (TXB2) spikes

• Tachyphylaxis (decreased response) after repeated doses in the same session (researchgate.net, pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov)

3. Blood/Plasma Testing: Feasibility & Clearing

• Feasibility:

• The study used PBMC isolation and plasma sampling at multiple timepoints post-injection. They performed RT-qPCR against spike mRNA, and ELISA assays for cytokines and complement factors (biorxiv.org).

• Testing blood/plasma is straightforward with standard molecular biology protocols.

• Removal/Clearing Mechanisms:

• In vivo, complement activation, platelet aggregation, and opsonization by anti-PEG antibodies rapidly clear LNPs.

• mRNA decay is further accelerated by blood nucleases.

• Clinically, methods like plasmapheresis could clear circulating LNPs/mRNA, as they work similarly for pathogenic immune complexes. But this was not tested in the pig study.

Hope it's clear now. Let me know if you have more questions. The main thing is that it shows again that COVID vaccines should have never be given to humans and all this poison goes into the blood. Also as researchers pointed mRNA is stabilized which means that isn't likely to be described by the blood processing.

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